There is a lot of physical phenomena.
There is a vortex here.
It's just out of control.
I'm getting attacked.
She's, like, praying and crying and praying and crying.
I saw a dark figure standing right there.
They can kill the living person here.
He died instantly.
It's not okay to be in this location at all.
This is not a good situation.
My name is Amy Allan.
There is death here.
Don't want to go down there.
I see dead people.
They hide in the walls, and they watch.
I speak to dead people...
She is definitely a serial killer.
...and they speak to me.
She is going to torture them.
But there is only one way to know if my findings are real.
They were all murdered.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
So is this the only time you've been physically attacked?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
There is no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan.
It's my job to reveal them.
Who do you think possessed you?
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end.
Well, you're not gonna wanna see this.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
Hell no.
Or time to get out.
Everyone is in jeopardy.
I'm in the small town of Elkview, West Virginia.
It's about 15 miles north of Charleston.
I got a call from a mother of two named Sara.
Now, she says something in her house is attacking her,
scaring her kids,
and she thinks someone is gonna get hurt.
She sounded really bad, and I'm hoping Amy
and I can help her out.
Before Amy arrives,
I clear the area of any leading information.
This house is filled with family photos,
so it's important that I cover or remove them all.
When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy.
There is at least three time periods
of different dead people here,
and they're stuck with each other,
so they're always fighting.
So it's kind of a mess.
This location here is kind of caught in the crosshairs
of this crazy...
It's really bad.
You know, Sara, when we spoke on the phone,
you sounded terrified.
What the hell's going on in this house?
I'm at my breaking point.
The activity now has got violent,
and it's just out of control.
I'm getting attacked.
My boys are being scared.
We need help.
If something can't be done,
it's gonna tear my family apart.
All right. So who exactly lives in the house?
Myself. We have my husband, Mark, our youngest boy,
Tanner, he's 10, and we have Lane that is 13.
All right, so how long have you guys been living here?
We bought the house in 2002.
We had Tanner in 2006.
By the time that he was 2,
that's when we really started noticing things
going on that we could not explain.
- Do you think he caused it? - Yes.
Nothing happened here until he was born.
What type of experiences are you guys having?
We've heard voices.
We have seen things move on their own.
We've seen shadow figures.
We'll have nightmares,
and it's finally getting physical.
We are...scared.
Now, is everybody in the house being affected?
To some degree.
But it seems like I'm the one that's seeing
and hearing the majority of it.
So why don't you just move?
We just really love this place,
and I want to fight for what's ours.
Something going on here.
There is a vortex here, but it's huge.
It's massive.
Dead people can come and go through it, also beings,
entities, like, things that have never been human.
It's very concentrated energy, very focused.
This is too much energy for living people to be exposed to.
Being near this vortex can cause a lot
of physical issues with the living.
You're not gonna be able to sleep here.
You're gonna have... insane dreams here.
You're gonna lose time here.
You're gonna see crazy...
It's not okay to be in this location at all.
What's going on down here?
I was down here one day, and I go to walk up the stairs.
I see the bottom half of an apparition as plain as day.
Where were you when you saw this?
At the back door.
Any chance it could've been one of the kids?
They were upstairs.
After I saw the apparition, I got this intense pain.
It felt like lightning had went from my head to my toes.
All right. So what else?
I have heard, say, two people having a conversation,
whispering, almost like they didn't want me
to hear what they were saying.
Does it sound like it's a man and a woman,
a couple of men, couple of women?
It varies. I've heard all.
Could the TV be on upstairs,
and it's just filtering down into --
There is no television on at these times.
This was late at night.
We don't leave TVs on.
Okay. What else is going on?
One night, it was, like,
someone was shaking the door violently.
Could somebody have gotten into the garage?
That was my first thought, and I was ready to call 9-1-1.
Did you investigate it?
I actually was too scared.
Wow.
There's Native Americans.
This is theirs, man.
I honestly thought they were all men,
but I'm seeing all of these Native American women
here with children.
I think that the living would have experiences of feeling,
like, back it up.
I think that the living
would have a hard time
being down here for very long.
They would definitely have experiences,
hearing children laughing and playing,
hearing women's voices.
There is a lot of physical phenomena.
The Native Americans are constantly, like, moving things.
They don't want anything down here or person,
and it really bothers them, you know?
They want it all out.
Okay. So what's going on?
The other night, I had a dream that there was a man
that was chasing me
down the stairs with a knife.
Okay. How often are you having those?
Several times a month.
All right. Listen, I have nightmares.
Why is it paranormal for you?
These nightmares have just started this year
when the activity really started ramping up.
And I've never had nightmares like this before.
Okay. All right. What else is going on in here?
One night, I woke up and there was just a shadow
leaning over me.
Where was the shadow?
It was along that wall right there.
It couldn't have been somebody outside casting a shadow. No, no.
At nighttime, I always shut our blinds.
Bad dreams. Seeing shadow figures in here.
What else is going on?
There is times that I've woke up, that it feels like
I've been in a car accident.
It feels like someone has taken a baseball bat to my ribcage.
Do you ever see any markings from it?
- We've taken some pictures. - Okay.
This is my calf.
I mean, this is bad. You know that. Yeah.
Anything else physical like that ever happened?
I'll go to bed feeling fine.
I will wake up in the middle of the night
and have a migraine to where it will make me so sick,
to where I'll get nauseous,
my head just feels like somebody has just caved it in.
How the hell are you living like this?
It's really scary sometimes.
And I'm just trying to get through it,
make everything okay for my boys,
my husband and just try to block it out.
I see a woman here with straight dark hair.
Is this a living person?
I think it's a living person.
I feel like she's being beat up, like,
physically assaulted by a dead male.
She's, like, praying and crying and praying and crying.
This person in here is sick already
and is sicker because of living here
because it's such a bad place to be physically.
- So, Lane, how old are you? - I'm 13.
So I was talking to mom.
She says things in the house are pretty scary. Yes.
Are you having trouble sleeping here?
I've had nightmares in here,
and that's caused me to not sleep.
So, Lane, what have you seen that you can't explain?
Downstairs, I saw the rocking chair rocking by itself.
Now, Lane, is it possible one of your dogs
might have ran by the chair and hit it?
No, because it's only happened
whenever I'm down there long.
Okay. What else?
One time, I saw a dark figure standing
right there looking at me through the doorway.
It scared me so bad, my heart just, like, leapt out of me.
So what did you see? What did it look like?
Like a man.
It was, like, darker than the room.
Do you think what's here could be dangerous?
Yeah.
Boy.
I'm seeing a group of men.
They look weird.
They're dressed up like pirates or bandits.
It makes them look really creepy,
but they're all in shadow except their eyes are white, like,
this intense, bright, white light
comes out of their eyes and puts them into shadow.
Living people here are seeing them.
They wake up at night, and they're being stared at.
Very scary.
Mark, talking to your wife, she said that the activity
kind of started
maybe two years after your youngest son was born.
I mean, did that make sense to you?
Yes.
There is something going on with the youngest.
Any experiences you could tell me about?
Absolutely. Yeah.
We were all down in the kitchen. Okay.
And there was this real loud beep.
It was really, I mean, you know, it made your ears ring.
Now, Mark, smoke detectors make that noise
when the battery is starting to go.
Was that the case here?
I searched everything down there, I mean, everything.
There was nothing.
Nothing logical could explain it.
Okay. Anything else happen?
One time, I came in and fell asleep on the love seat
and had my head back.
And it just felt like somebody grabbed my jaw
and slammed it shut.
- You sure it wasn't a dream? - Yeah.
And then afterward, the bottom of my chin tingled
and then my teeth started hurting.
I'm like, "Holy crap." I mean, it hurt my teeth.
Working with Amy, knowing that things are really physical here,
this is not a good thing. - Yeah.
I worry every day, especially when I'm out of town.
It's tough.
I'm really worried about the boys being mentally scarred.
These pirate bandit people
are causing a lot of stress for the living.
One of them tried to talk to me.
It made this weird noise.
I've seen them, like, creeping up on a male here
as he's going up these stairs,
and there's a little dead guy
jumping on this living dude's back.
This living guy just explodes.
He's feeling choked.
He's feeling like the wind's being knocked out of him.
He's feeling pushed.
A lot of really brutal experiences.
- Tanner, how old are you? -10.
So, Tanner, when I was talking to your mom today,
she told me that you were having a tough time
with the activity in the house.
- Does that sound right to you? - Yeah.
Any experiences you could tell me about?
In the TV room, the ceiling fan light,
it was off then it flickered on by itself.
- That kind of scared you. - Yeah.
Anything else?
I had a headache that
progressively got stronger.
And you think this was caused by the paranormal?
Yeah.
Did you have them ever again?
Yes.
Your mom mentioned she gets headaches.
You ever been around mom when she got them?
Yeah.
I got them the same time as she did.
If things are so bad here for everybody else
and they've got to move, would you be okay with that?
Yeah.
There is about two or three women here.
I think they're whores.
I guess they probably had Syphilis, I'm thinking.
They're rotting.
One of them doesn't have a nose, you know?
The other one is, like, missing, you know,
pretty much her whole face.
And they look scarier than...
You know if they interact with
the living in any way?
These whores are pulling memories out.
I think that the living have headaches from that,
and I think that they have nightmares from that.
It's very unhealthy.
They like this room.
They're attracted to this living person here
'cause they're a physical medium.
These whores think that this person has been neglected.
They basically want to adopt this person.
- Is this person in danger? - Yeah.
The whores have been attached to this person
for their whole life and make bad...
happen, and they can kill the living person here.
Look, Elkview is a tiny town, barely over 1,200 people.
So when I made my usual calls,
just about everyone knew Sara and Mark's property.
I'm heading over to meet with an archivist who says,
one of the original owners
suffered a lot of tragedies there.
Now, Matt, you mentioned on the phone
that the Pauley family suffered some tragedies
while they were on my clients' property.
When did they get my clients' property?
Daniel Pauley bought your clients' property in about 1858.
So how much property did he have?
Well, he purchased 670 acres.
Wow.
Does he move on the property right then and there? Yes. Yes.
He and his wife, Cinthya, and their eight children,
they moved their immediately and built a house.
You mentioned on the phone, there were some deaths
in regards to the family. What happened?
Cinthya gives birth to a baby boy named Benjamin.
But unfortunately, Benjamin dies when he's only 4 months old.
4 months?
Yeah, same year they move onto the property.
This is the death record of it?
- That's right. - What happens after that?
Several years later,
the American Civil War is going on.
Daniel goes off to fight for the North.
I mean, how old is he at this point? He's 50.
All right. So let me get this straight.
The guy's 50, joins the Union Army.
That's correct.
And we do know that the company he served in lost
about 200 men to disease, probably dysentery.
And a lot of that was due to the, you know,
the sanitation conditions.
So in these camps, it just was not a very healthy place to be.
And that's a horrible way to go. Yes.
I'm seeing that group of bandits,
and they don't look good.
They all got sick, and they all died
horrible deaths from this illness.
And they are damned to wander here.
The leader of these bandits
is a colonial rogue soldier.
So can you describe this guy?
He looks to be in his 40s, I would guess,
very tall and he had on this
very rich velvet blue
Military jacket.
He was in the military, and I believe he went rogue.
How does it go for him after that?
He's able to come home to Cinthya and the children
unscathed at the end of the war in 1865.
As time wears on, though, on October 5, 1888, he dies.
- Do we know how old he was? - Yes.
He was 73 years old.
Okay. What are we thinking, stroke?
More than likely a stroke.
All right. So Daniel is dead.
Does Cinthya remain on the property?
She does, and she winds up dying in
February of 1890 when she's 72.
- And on my clients' property? - That's correct.
What happens with the property?
Well, it stays in the family and it is Daniel's grandson,
George, who actually buys the property.
In 1894, he and his wife have a young son named Romey
who dies before he's even a year old.
What happens after that?
Well, George actually is the final chapter
of the Pauley tragedies.
In 1906, when he's only 36 years old,
he dies very quickly, very mysteriously.
All we have to go on is his obituary.
So we don't know if it was an accident, illness.
It doesn't tell us what happened to him.
But we do know it was very unexpected.
I think there are so many dead people here
because of the vortex.
Dead people can come and go through it, also beings,
entities, like, things that have never been human.
They can come and go through it.
And how would the living be affected by the vortex?
They would feel anxious.
They would have equilibrium issues.
It could cause long-term illnesses,
also neurological damage.
This thing is really dangerous.
I think that it can kill people.
A local EMT just called me.
Now, he says Elkview has been completely flooded
several times.
It turns out, one of the most recent ones was deadly,
and one of the victims died
right near Mark and Sara's house.
Now, Tim, thanks for meeting me.
I really appreciate that.
You mentioned on the phone that one of my clients' neighbors
perished during this big flood. What happened?
Little Sandy Creek runs along the property
that you're investigating.
In June of 1998, a big powerful storm hit the Elkview area.
Okay. So how bad did it get?
İt got pretty deep, and it destroyed a lot of property
and took some lives.
Wow. All right.
So obviously, the water rose.
What were the flood levels at my clients' property?
Wow. It got really high. Okay.
So what do we know about the poor guy
that died in this flood?
Well, Mr. Richard Varium, he was an 83-year-old guy that lived
about 1,000 feet from the property
you're investigating.
I have a picture of Mr. Varium when he was younger.
He had been living alone for quite a while.
He was bound to a wheelchair and also blind.
He was in a bad situation.
What happened?
Family tried to get him out, and they got him to the porch
and realized that the water was too swift, muddy,
with a lot of debris and then went to get help.
By the time they got back,
he had washed away along with the porch.
And he was found downstream about 1/4
of a mile in some trees.
There was something about water issues here and flooding
'cause I saw water come down, like, a wall.
These water issues are due directly
to the paranormal phenomena here.
That's not good.
The problem here is the land.
Exposure to the land seems to trap the dead here
or bring them back to be trapped here.
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So far, I've got a family being tormented
in their own home on a property where at least five people died.
But I want to see if there is anything else.
Searching through old records,
I find an article about another member of the Pauley family.
It turns out he was murdered right next to Sara
and Mark's property.
I'm heading over to meet historian and old friend,
Jim Casto.
He's looked into this case for me
and says it's got all the ingredients for violence --
friendship, love, and betrayal.
Well, Jim, it's good to see you again.
Now, the homicide, it happened right near my clients' property,
and it involved one of the Pauleys.
So what can you tell me about it?
The victim was 27-year-old Clarence Pauley,
and he and his wife and his three kids lived
just down the road from the property.
There is a photo of him in his Navy uniform
during his World War II service.
Despite being a married man,
Clarence was conducting an affair
with the wife of his best friend,
Arnold Eldgewick, and her name was Mary.
What happened with the homicide?
On the night of May 27, 1947,
Clarence drove Mary to her sister's house,
where she had been staying. - Okay.
What they didn't know was that Arnold was there waiting on them
in the dark, shotgun in hand.
They pulled up. Mary saw him standing there.
She got out of the car.
He fired a shotgun blast to her but missed.
She fled and went down the road.
Clarence gets out of the car.
But before he gets out of the car,
he picks up a heavy hammer and he starts toward Arnold.
The guy's got a shotgun, and he grabs a hammer?
- It seems odd. - Yeah.
Arnold fired again.
This time, his shot hit its mark.
It pierced Clarence's chest right into his heart.
He died instantly.
Okay. So Arnold kills this guy.
Do the cops arrest him?
Well, they didn't have to bother looking for him.
He drove himself straight to the county jail,
turned himself in, confessed what he had done.
And when they asked him why, he said,
"I thought I had done a good deed."
Here is a mug shot taken at the West Virginia prison.
He's got psycho written in his eyes.
I can tell you that.
- Absolutely. - All right.
So how much time did he wind up getting?
He served three years in the West Virginia State Pen.
He got away with pretty much premeditated murder.
So it would seem.
Something happened where this woman is freaking out.
I'm hearing, like, men's voices talking, yelling.
Some jealousy issues, I heard a gunshot.
I'm getting just a lot of sadness.
I saw a lot of dead during my walk,
but two groups concerned me the most.
First, the gang of bandits,
these figures are completely black.
Their eyes were white.
They look like kind of these mutant monsters.
Next, I describe the prostitutes terrorizing a young boy.
He is pissed off.
He's like this because they keep him up all night.
One of them is kind of missing half of her face.
It's been rotted off already.
The other one, her nose fell off.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes. That's what I saw.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
Amy, I'd like you to meet Sara and her husband, Mark.
Now, they live here with their two young sons.
I've got a photo.
This is Lane, who is 13.
This is Tanner, who's 10.
Now, Mark here travels a lot for work,
so Sara and the boys are left here a lot
to face the violent activity alone.
She told me, with everything going on,
this place is just a house, not a home.
But they're both hoping we can change that.
So now that Amy has met you guys,
I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us.
When I got here,
I saw something that is really not good
for living people -- a vortex.
It's something that's always been here,
and this one is so large and is very powerful.
People who live in areas like this
will have a lot of paranormal phenomena
because entities and dead people come and go through vortexes.
The dead here, due to this kind of energy, are stronger.
They're gonna be much more physical.
They're gonna be able to do a lot more to the living.
And for the living, it makes you guys a lot weaker.
If you have a lot of dead people around you,
you're gonna have a lot of dead energy
which isn't particularly healthy.
And also, because the movement of energy is so intense,
the living here would be, like, constantly falling,
having vertigo-type experiences.
Now, we never talked about equilibrium problems.
You or anybody in the family have any problems with that? Yes.
Months ago, it was just, like,
someone had spun me around 50 times.
I could not get out of the bathroom.
This vortex can also cause you to have nightmares
and bad anxiety.
I feel high, high anxiety for no reason.
Mark, do you or the boys feel that way at all?
- The boys definitely do -- - Okay.
...especially Lane.
Plus, you mentioned nightmares. Yeah.
You feel like when you wake up,
you have to look around to be like,
"Where the heck have I been?"
And I spoke to both boys,
and they're having nightmare issues as well.-
Long-term, what is this gonna do to us?
Being exposed to just the vortex alone
on a consistent basis can develop
into long-term and terminal illnesses,
things like brain cancer,
dementia, Alzheimer's, heart issues.
Do you guys suffer from anything like that?
High blood pressure, yeah.
But it seems like it probably got worse when I came here.
Exactly. That's the vortex?
It could be, yeah.
What else did you get?
There are three groups of dead people here.
They are each from a separate time period.
One of the groups is Native American.
And basically, they've taken over this basement area.
There is a lot of physical phenomena.
Native Americans are constantly, like, moving things.
They don't want anything down here or person,
and it really bothers them, you know?
They want it all out.
So I thought the living would hear maybe the women talking,
the children laughing and playing, objects moving.
When I spoke with Sara down here in the basement,
she told me about hearing voices down here, conversations, right?
Just whispers. Imagine just people, you know...
Yeah, I'll hear that.
Now, you've also heard someone screwing
with the basement doorknob.
Tell Amy what happened that time.
Imagine somebody walking up the stairs and can't get up,
got angry and just did one of those.
Now, Mark, did Lane tell you about the story
with the rocking chair down here?
Yeah. Just out of the corner of his eye,
he would see this rocking chair move.
Now, does that make sense with all
the Native Americans down here?
Yes.
There is one dead male I saw very clearly.
He is the leader of the second group
of dead people that are here,
and I'll get to those guys in a minute.
This guy was extremely tall, very thin, very pale.
He looked to be in his 40s.
He was wearing an interesting hat.
He also had a royal blue
Military-style jacket.
I think he was in the military, and he went rogue.
And like I said, he had a team of men.
I mean, I kept calling them kind of, like, pirates or bandits
because of how they dressed and acted.
Eventually, though, all of these men
became extremely ill from some kind of illness,
and they all died horrible deaths.
Some of the stuff you're talking about reminds me
of one of the original owners of your property,
and this guy goes back to 1858.
He bought 670 acres, including the property the house sits on.
Now his name was Daniel Pauley.
Now, you said the guy you saw was in the Military
and might have had a Military jacket on?-
Pauley served in the Union Army during the Civil War
which would have been a blue uniform.
He was 50 years old when he joined.
You said you saw a bunch of men dying of some horrible illness.
Now, when Pauley was serving,
200 of the guys he served with died of dysentery.
But he managed to survive somehow.
Now, is it possible Pauley could be the guy you saw?
I kind of think it's unlikely.
I didn't really feel like they lived here.
Okay. At least we know who it's not.
Now, does this guy in blue and his men do anything
to the living here? - Yes.
I think you might hear them
and I tried to speak to them.
But because they can't physically manifest words,
this weird noise came out.
It's like this crackling weird noise.
Well, it's funny you mention that
because I just looked at Mark.
He told me about hearing these, like, a beep?
Yeah, just a beep out of nowhere.
It sounds like it's right next to you,
but there is nothing there.
I got that there is one male that they don't particularly
like here, that they do focus on and pick on often.
One of them attacked this male here.
I saw him jumping on his back, pushing him up the stairs
there into the family room area,
maybe feeling, like, an, you know, a hit here maybe,
maybe choking sensation, maybe feeling like, you know,
the wind's getting knocked out of you.
It sounds to me like you're talking about Mark.
Tell her about the experience you had on the couch
'cause that was pretty bad.
One night, okay, my mouth was wide open and I was snoring.
And it just felt like somebody had come up
and took their hand and slammed my mouth shut.
And the bottom side of my chin
tingled for at least an hour or two.
You mentioned you'd saw a male getting attacked.
- Yeah. - But I got news for you.
I got photos of Sara waking up with bruises.
Here, look at these.
Wow.
It feels like somebody has taken a baseball bat to my ribcage.
Is there any other way Mark and Sara
would experience these guys?
It's possible that the living could see them.
They were in shadow and I had a sketch done of what I saw.
Wow.
I have seen a dark apparition,
a shadow figure, that I thought was Mark,
and he backed into the wall.
So it sounds like these bandits are what they're seeing?
Correct. These guys are always around.
They don't ever leave.
You said there were three groups of dead people
you were concerned about. - Yeah.
What was the third one?
So there is this other group of dead people
that are here that are prostitutes.
There's two or three of them.
I think that these women suffered from syphilis.
For instance, one doesn't have a nose.
There is another one who has the sores.
It can be a rotting disease.
As far as what the living would experience,
they will go into your minds
and pull out really bad memories,
causing wicked headaches and nightmares.
You and Tanner both have headaches.
I mean, we're talking full-blown migraine to where,
you know, you're nauseous.
The other thing that's going on is, they love children.
They wanted the child who's in the yellow room.
That's Tanner.
They're attracted to him because he is a physical medium.
A lot of this activity started after Tanner hit about 2.
Is there a connection between him turning 2
and what's going on here? - Yes.
He's becoming a little bit more cognizant, you know, aware.
So he can interact with them in a way
that a lot of other people can't.
You didn't have a surprised look on your face
when she said he was a physical medium.
You were like, "Yeah."
- We kind of suspected it. - You did?
Yeah. I'm really worried about him because ---
...what's his life going to be like
and what do we tell him now?
He strikes me as a kid, when you talk to him,
as somebody that has been through a lot.
A lot, exactly.
I did have a sketch done of him
being agitated by these women.
That's gonna be tough for you to see.
Wow.
I mean, I've seen him sit in his bed like that.
You can tell that something bothers him.
All right.
So what do these prostitutes want with Tanner anyway?
These women are nuts.
What they're trying to figure out right now
is if they want to take him
or if they want to attach to him.
And if they were to attach to him,
they would then cause issues throughout his life.
If they decided to take him, that would result in death.
So Sara and Mark, you guys got a lot of information tonight,
probably a lot more than you bargained for.
But we still haven't answered the big question.
Is there anything you can do to stop the activity here
so that you guys can protect
Tanner and live in peace as a family again?
For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
Okay. So here we go.
Basically, what can be done about the vortex
is a reversal of the vortex energy.
Take it from negative to positive.
That way, the entities aren't anymore coming out at you.
They're going in, and then they're moving on.
And negative energy would dissipate over time.
So how can they make that happen?
The one that I know, she is a psychic knower
and a Reiki master.
Okay.
And she also specializes in working with vortex.
It's an extremely difficult task.
I would give the odds 50/50.
You'll know within a week, after the practitioner were to leave,
if it worked or not.
Obviously, if it doesn't take, I would recommend that you move.
If it did work, then you would need to find a physical medium
and a shaman to move on the rest of the dead that are here,
the ones who think that they're trapped.
What about the whores?
They're gonna be harder to grasp,
but the medium will be able to do it.
Yeah. They're not gonna have another chance to kill my kid.
They are not harming him ever, ever, ever again.
Even if all of this works, you have to start dealing
and learning about the abilities that your son,
Tanner, has, especially focusing right now
on protection measures and meditation techniques.
If you were in their shoes, what would you do?
- I would be out of here. - Shoot.
If they move and Tanner learns how to deal with his abilities,
should they be okay? - Yeah.
You know, normally, I stick it to the clients.
I'm like, "You're gonna do what Amy advises you."
This is one of those cases where it's, like, you guys
really got to figure this out
and, you know, this is your family.
Not a tough decision when it comes
to the well-being of the family.
- This is just a physical place. - Yeah.
I don't see how we can stay.
We're definitely gonna move.
There is no guarantee that a psychic knower
and a Reiki master can reverse the vortex on Mark
and Sara's property,
so I really hope they take my advice and move.
If they do that and teach Tanner how to deal with his abilities,
they should be able to lead a peaceful life.